Time Between Points

We have all seen Rafa Nadal being warned for taking too much time between points (to touch his hair, his shirt, and tug at the back of his shorts); but how long should players be able to take?

According to an Official …

The rule is that you have 20 seconds from when the point ends to the start of the next point when you are serving. We all know that that is not strictly enforced at pretty much any level of play. Also, in USTA events, we are a lot more lenient on that because there are no ball-kids and a lot of times it takes more than 20 seconds.

The key is, that you can’t just stall. If you are taking a lot of time, and the balls are close, and you are just stalling, you could get a time violation.

When you are receiving, you have to play to the “reasonable pace of the server.” There is no hard firm rule as to what reasonable pace is. The guideline for officials is 12-15 seconds.

If the server establishes early in the match that 8 seconds is his pace, and the receiver is ready every time, then that becomes the reasonable pace of the server. But, the receiver is not entitled to the entire 20 seconds if the server is ready to play (except in college tennis where the receiver does get the full 20 seconds).

Gamesmanship At Play

We have all come across the players who will either speed up or slow down play in order to gain an advantage – and get under your skin.  Why do they do this?  Can’t they just play tennis as best they can and beat you straight up?

Other comments or opinions?

Larry Turville Update

Larry reports from the clinic in Houston that he is slugging his way through the worst part of the chemo and then will face six weeks of proton radiation targeting his throat and tongue cancer.  His challenge right now?  Eat a lot to put on weight that they tell him he will be losing during the treatments.

If anyone has experience with this treatment to share – or just wants to reach out to Larry – his email address is lturville@msn.com

My Hip Update

I finally saw the hip specialist (Dr. Bertram) this morning and, after exam and another x-ray, said, “You will definitely need a hip replacement sometime in the future.”

He was not in favor of giving me a cortisone shot (because that would impact the potential of future replacement); but I am now scheduled to have the new Amniotic Stem Cell injection next Wednesday.  This has the potential of improving the condition in my arthritic hip; but could take one to three months to do its thing.  So in the meantime, it will be Tylenol to manage the pain (not Aleve or Celebrex, because they would negatively impact the stem cell working).

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10 thoughts on “Time Between Points

  1. You are correct that this rule is only (sometimes) enforced at the Pro level tournament.
    At our level either at USTA league match or playing with your tennis buddies at your local club or community it impossible and not needed to be enforced. What is needed is just common courtesy for BOTH the server and receiver.

    This should be able to be worked out with just polite conversation. As a receiver I play the add court….there are times when a serve down the T…will pull be wide to the center of the court as I am set up to try and hit forehands….for me personally I need that extra split second to reset and hold my hand up to the server until I am ready. Some…servers who have the machine gun rapid fire between 1st and 2nd serve are not always pleased, but I feel I have the right to that courtesy.

    As far as the cortisone shot interfering with some future surgery….I am not buying it, but that is just me. I have had probably 25 to 30 shots over the last 10 years prior to knees, back and wrist surgery. Then some continuing for the back to postpone an additional fusion surgery. I admit…I am not a doctor….but have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express!

    Dave, I am with you about recovery time (especially with my bad hip!). Thanks. George

  2. Bummer about Larry’s treatment and your hip, George. May you both get better quickly and be back on the court having fun and kicking butt ASAP!!!

    Marty. Our goal exactly! Thanks. George

  3. My wife and I personally tried amniotic stem cell injection through Dr Lamb…she for an arthritic knee and me for torn carteledge and tendinitis in my wrist. Neither of us received the meaningful benefit we were told, plus it was not covered by insurance.

    Doug, yes, and i had to pay up front. I am told that cortisone shots are also only 50% effective. We shall see. george

  4. George,
    I am interested in hearing how you amniotic stem cell injection works. If that can avoid some replacements that would be awesome.
    Randy Beerman

    Randy, we shall see! Thanks. George

  5. What a bummer George! Looking forward to seeing you get this hip stuff behind you so you can arrive at Newks heathy and ready to roll!

    Jim, i need to be one of those “soft court only” players at camp! thanks, george

  6. I don’t know if this matters or not but I was told recently by an orthopedic surgeon who I see for my injured shoulder that “cortisone” shots are not, in fact, cortisone any more. They are a combination of a steroid and pain medication. I have had three of them (the max) over the past 2 months in my right shoulder. So far I have gotten very little relief. I am not sure if doctors use “cortisone” injections any more but I have heard that they can cause deterioration in the joint? I seem to be getting a little better with rest, ice, and PT since I am trying my best to avoid surgery. Seems like an inexact science.

    Jim, i believe you are correct on both counts… may not be actually cortisone and they can cause deterioration of the joint (that is why this doc wasn’t giving to me). thanks, george

  7. BTW, the older I get, the more I think that bodies should be like cars.

    When you are young and poor, you buy the cheapest POS that you can afford and then spend years paying it off, following which you spend more years beating it to crap until you finally have to sell it for junk. You then buy a new one and do it all over again.

    But when you get older and you have a bit more dough, you switch to leasing something luxurious and you only need to hold on to it for a few years when you get to turn it in and lease something new again.

    Marty, ok, can a lease a new, luxurious body? george

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